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Post by CoachCortezFSK on May 27, 2007 19:51:08 GMT -5
Hurray Cross Country time!! so.. the rankings...
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Post by scdistance on May 28, 2007 6:50:00 GMT -5
I think it is a little early to make predictions for xc, seeing teams still have all summer to train... and a lot can change over one summer.
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Post by scdistance on May 28, 2007 6:59:26 GMT -5
But as of right now I would probably say Fsk will take the boys title again, While SC will win the girls title.
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Post by CoachCortezFSK on May 28, 2007 15:42:41 GMT -5
Fsk is only returning 3 out of there top 5 who else do they have? i mean they will be good but look at other teams ....liberty gets cross back, WM had a lot of fresh faces and could show something and we Westminster Have 6 returning runners with varsity experiance 5 being seniors.
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Post by scdistance on May 30, 2007 13:18:01 GMT -5
I realize that FSK is only returning 3 of there top 5, but there 6 and 7 runner still did very well last year. Which is the reason I still think they will do fairly well this season.
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Post by CoachSpongeBob on May 30, 2007 15:55:30 GMT -5
FSK return 3 of their top 6. Their #7 was a ways back last year (not that he won't improve or they get someone else). On returning runners, FSK needs to add depth. Even with that top 3, they lose too much to their #4.
Century depth at distance in track was very strong this year, I don't know how many do xc, and most of their depth was at the 800 - which doesn't translate to xc success, but who knows.
Liberty returns 5 varsity runners - Cross, Liberatore, Dougherty, Souders and Rodriguez. Liberatore won a state title, Cross ran 10:12, but depth could be the issue for them too (who knows)
SC has a good 1-2 punch coming back, and if the rest of their team steps up like they did last year they should be a factor.
NC could make some noise. They had a young team last year if I remember right, and they kept improving in track this year.
Winters Mill was even younger, and even harder to predict.
Westminster has won 24 of the last 27 county titles, so yeah, they are likely to be a factor.
Every team has some talent coming back, nobody is a lock to win it based on varsity team coming back (remember FSK was the only county team to beat Liberty the year they won their 3rd state title, so it wasn't a surprise that they were good the next year when everybody came back - but no team seems to fit that same mold as them last year). Seems to me that next year a new varsity runner will make the difference - at least they have to.
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Post by CoachSpongeBob on May 30, 2007 15:57:14 GMT -5
(just to note, FSK's #4 returner from last year placed 40th of 47 at the county meet last year. I am sure he will improve, but FSK last year had a solid 6 and loses Fearns, Welsh and Craig to graduation)
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Post by CoachSpongeBob on May 30, 2007 16:00:40 GMT -5
I will try to put the formula together to figure out the pre-season rankings like we did last year in the next few weeks. 13 of the 27 ranked runners from last year graduated on the guys side.
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Post by CoachCortezFSK on Jun 4, 2007 18:20:12 GMT -5
The formula says the cut off time or 0 points is 19:30 right? so if you have run faster than that a couple times last year will that get you a spot? yea last year i kinda hit a wall maybe too much training last summer who knows?
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Post by CoachSpongeBob on Jun 18, 2007 13:21:59 GMT -5
Well, once the rankings are established (which they have been since we have a previous year in which we did it) the way you get in the rankings is by competing against those on the rankings.
I did have a thought though, and wanted to get everybodies opinion. I was thinking maybe I could take People's PRs in the 3200 from this past track season, and use that as a hypothetical meet. I think if we did this, it might shake things up a bit, and get a few new names on there. For instance, if we did this, Andrew Cross' PR of 10:13 would be included, and he would have one race to get into the rankings. It wouldn't get him very high in the rankings, even though he had one of the top 5 times in the county (the ranking system protects against one race having too much meaning outside of championships).
Thoughts?
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Post by goofyfoot on Jun 18, 2007 15:44:33 GMT -5
I really like the rankings and the logic behind the system. I think you did a very fair job of establishing some kind of a uniform platform. If you build it off of the 3200 from the '07 track, season, what does that do to the cc kids who don't run track? I think it would be best if you just kept it like it is and update after each race or few races. And remove the graduates off the list, since they won't be part of this season's rankings.
Just my thought.
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Post by CoachSpongeBob on Jun 18, 2007 15:51:51 GMT -5
For those that don't run track, it wouldn't hurt them. It is just like when you have a meet with only SC and Century in it. It just can change the scores of those in the race. Every person in the race won't go up - in fact if someone adds points to their score, someone else had to lose points. It wouldn't get any more weight then a regular dual meet, but might help level off the pre-season rankings (again back to the Cross example, instead of Cross starting the season unranked and thus causing havoc in the early meets by taking away a lot of points, we just use the track season to help adjust).
Does that make sense?
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Post by goofyfoot on Jun 18, 2007 22:34:18 GMT -5
It sure does. I figured there would be a logical solution.
Thanks for your explanation...
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Post by CoachCortezFSK on Jun 20, 2007 10:32:21 GMT -5
if you are thinking about doing that well here is my 2 mile time. It's 11:13 not good but the one and only time i have really run the 2 mile i had 4 events that day at a tri meet so yea haha. When do you think it may be updated?
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Post by CoachSpongeBob on Jun 21, 2007 12:46:11 GMT -5
Not looking good to happen before my vacation. I am in class for work next week, then I leave for vacation. I have to get some actual work done before the class (good grief), so I might have to do it as soon as I get back. Sorry
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